Waterloo Honors Science. I am trying to decide between Engineering Science at Toronto and Software Engineering at Waterloo. 8 Share. So I'm a student looking into prospective colleges. BME is a good option if you have an interest in the classes, which pull skills from mech, electrical and software and apply it to biomed concepts. Students get both a traditional eng degree with all the flavour of BME. You’ll always be with these 60 to 120 people (depending on program) taking all the same classes and doing group projects together, then eventually doing Engineer traditions Huh biomed is one of the only fields that benefits from the eng sci structure. There’s several tough classes in BME, trying to get an A in every single one isn’t realistic for most people. You can be out of school at the age of 22 and working, as opposed to grinding it out for another 5-10 years in medical school. another worry of mine has to do with issues of diversity, as i am black woman in engineering. A 95% average probably is too low to get in especially considering they do adjustment factors and ur school could possibly be at a disadvantage. Cons: some employers don’t like BMEs, still a small industry and some BME programs suffer from either specializing too early or being too broad. They’re all hidden under the 1000+ systems jobs. Waterloo has more opportunities. Biomedical engineering is a niche sort of market though so if you do really want a masters in the end make sure it will actually benefit you in a specific job, otherwise you're just pissing in the wind. Posted by u/AwesomeDino619 - 5 votes and 4 comments Biomedical Engineering researchers create an AI-powered digital imaging system to speed up biopsy results. ) to outline our 5-year journey as part of BME at UWaterloo! 47/50 cohort members provided responses to questions posed in the survey. Posts of interest to residents of Cambridge, Kitchener, Waterloo, and the surrounding townships are welcome, as well as occasional discussions about the Battle of Waterloo. University of Waterloo Admissions. Management: Waterloo’s version of Industrial Engineering, but with more Data Science. Engineering Science (especially Aerospace Engineering as a specialization) is very appealing, but I have been told that Waterloo co-op is reason enough to go there. A few points: Biomedical sciences is not IT related whatsoever. i know 100% that I want to do engineering, and fairly sure that I want to be a part of the biotech industry. The tuition for UBC is ~$6K, while the tuition for Its mainly to prove to employers you can time manage and have a few braincells. I only took 2 bio courses during my degree. Thursday, April 11, 2024. The biomedical industry is not as strong in Vancouver as it is in Ontario. 94 probably good enough 👍. Also, I would suggest studying one of the "basic" engineering disciplines in undergrad (electrical, mechanical, chemical, etc etc) and then specializing in biomedical engineering in grad school. UBC has what's called the Engineers in Scrubs Program that I have heard is great, while UofT has the ability to specialize in a specific field. Stream 4 students have co-op term 5 and 6 back-to-back, while stream 8 students have co-op Probably not. Monday, December 9, 2013. Plus, their HESE program is better for those trying for med school or who like life sci I got accepted into both biomedical engineering at Waterloo and materials engineering at UofT, and I’m trying to decide between the two. Biomedical engineering is highly interdisciplinary, combining biology fields such as biochemistry, cellular physiology, anatomy, molecular biology, and physiology with applied science fields such as materials, electrical, instrumentation, chemical, control, and mechanical engineering. Co-op is a competitive job search process where students alternate between academic study terms and paid work experiences. I really enjoy the science and math, so I thought engineering would be the best. I got accepted into both materials engineering at UofT and biomedical engineering at Waterloo, and I’m trying to decide between the two. Share. Around 60-90% of the class lands a biomed job (this varies a lot between first year and upper years). 9. The pay range there is $17/hr - $28/hr depending on year and experience. Nanotechnology: Waterloo’s version of Materials Engineering, but with more Electrical Engineering. Make sure its something you really want to do though; Civil Engineering can be very hit or miss for people as its definitely not the most "exciting" type, but I still really recommend it. Isn’t U of T better for research and is more well known? Would medical companies want someone with a good undergrad like EngSci? Dude, no one knows EngSci outside of EngSci lol, don't let them feed you the EngSci reputation bull crap. I was just wondering how competitive it is. (Speaking as a BME grad) Waterloo BME takes the general approach for 5 years and covers basic mech, electrical and software skills. however, I was told that biomedical engineering is too narrow (and not that similar to biological engineering) for a degree and that i should do something a little broader, like systems design. While on a co-op work term, students take an online professional development course from WatPD Waterloo Announces New Biomedical Engineering Degree. I’m… We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. My school was like #35 and the biomedical students had a hard time finding jobs while none of the other engineers did. Also regarding coop, Waterloo is insanely better than McMaster. Take the MCAT and go to medical school as a mechanical engineer. Well you have to find co-op every semester at Waterloo otherwise they literally won't let you graduate so there is that. It’s better to have a stronger foundation in software, circuits, etc. The most useful courses are design, programming and other technical skills, which UBC BME is lacking in when compared to Waterloo and Ryerson. I heard that the university has preference for applicants who have achieved high scores on the Waterloo math contests. I really want to specialize in biomedical eng and pursue grad school/research later, but also have good undergrad job prospects Everything we work on these days will have elements of all the core engineering topics, and I think the best thing that Waterloo Engineering teaches is the ability to learn quickly. In your experience, will I be missing There’s also many other biomedical engineering programs in Ontario to consider too. McMaster over Western and both over Ottawa. There’s a stronger focus on software, mechanical and electrical engineering and hands on design. An unofficial subreddit for high school students, undergraduate students, pre-optometry students, admitted students, and anyone else who is interested in the University of Waterloo School of Optometry and Vision Science! Waterloo if you’re in Canada. (so first year is literally 0% bio 100% engineering lol) Waterloo will be creating a BME grad program, probably within the next couple years, again through the SYDE Department. I went to Waterloo BME. Engineering programs in Waterloo have a cohort system, where a cohort is a group of people you get to know from Frosh to graduation, each program having multiple cohorts. Biomedical engineering is NOT LIFE SCIENCE. I don’t think you can go wrong with either if that’s what you are into. From what I hear, it's a lot harder to find a biomedical job than the other engineering jobs. Is anyone in Biomedical Engineering and managing a perfect 4. The thing is that I haven’t scored well enough the tests to receive an honour or anything. Add a Comment. First year no bio courses. Our first project for our BME 161 (intro I was wondering if anyone had any information in regards to the system design engineering master's program at waterloo. I know that a person above said Waterloo eng only has 4 month terms but in BME you do have 1 8 month term, so don’t use that as a factor in your decision. In the most politest way possible, It’s already incredibly difficult for Waterloo Engineering students to transfer into Software Engineering. Research would be working for universities at the bleeding edge between life science and engineering. It is under the systems design umbrella so I would imagine the general feel of the program is similar to systems. Yes I did. SYDE and BME are pretty much the same at Waterloo. So I'm in Grade 12 and I got accepted into the Biomedical Sciences Program with a 94% average. Waterloo biomedical engineering in comparison is very well regarded and will have good job prospects. On the note of Baylis, one of my friends is a recruiter for their co-op students. The suicide rate is not unusual at all, very comparable to other universities, UW has just gotten some bad rep for it. haters_want_to_bme. That said, your chances of getting into medical school out of biomedical engineering, while possible, is highly I'm a biomedical engineering student here at uwaterloo. I don’t think one side is heavier than another because you can focus your design classes on what you enjoy. It’s more about the problems facing healthcare and the technical solutions to solve it. You can probably take business electives through the Conrad centre for BET but I'm not too sure. Their coop program is fantastic. Their campus is prettier than Waterloo's. There’s probably around a hundred positions that can be related to biomed. You also pick up a lot of skills from other engineering disciplines and can work in other fields if you want to. Source: gf is bme. Syde is really gud if u r btw a crazy mech and crazy software guy. theGuacFlock • 4 yr. Oh u have a really good point. I just came across this statistic by the Bureau of Labor Statistics which predicts a 23% job growth rate through 2024 for Bachelor's Degree Biomedical Engineers, approximately 5100 more jobs opening up, but I've always read on this subreddit and other engineering subreddits that majoring in Biomedical Engineering is pretty much a death sentence unless you're planning on pursuing higher I’m currently in Waterloo biomedical engineering. Award. I'd go strictly mechanical engineering, and then take organic chemistry and biology as elective credits. I’m… First-year courses. My end goal is medicine (yet I'm open to new possibilities, things change) so in order to achieve that goal I need to maintain a balance between high GPA, research, clinical For reference, the way the biomed program here works is that you apply and get accepted for eng sci, do 2 years of general eng sci, and then specialize in biomedical engineering (or any other eng sci major) in years 3 and 4. Reply. It is very rare (also most people that stick with BME to the end don't intend to go for medical school, most go into industry work or down the software/data science pipeline). • 4 yr. From my experience in a different Engineering discipline (meaning some of these things may differ in Biomed; ask your department's office about these, or the first year engineering office): To be able to add an extra course on a study term , you need a 75% average (can't remember if it's cumulative or just the previous study term). Only major difference is BME makes you take a few science courses and SYDE is 4 stream. In your first year, you'll take a mixture of Physics, Biology, Mathematics, and Chemistry courses to give you the foundations for your upper-year classes. Usually only maybe 2-5 people a year, most of whom are already in Waterloo ECE. There’s 1 chem class in first year and a materials class but that’s about it. I’m on my 4th coop and all of my jobs have been in medtech. Waterloo's civil engineering department is quite large, our cohort is 120-140 students per year and there are specialized courses in fields like transportation, structures, buildings, water resources, and geotech in 3rd/4th year. 0 average or close? Is it doable? Some students did it in my year, but they dedicated a ton of time to studying it. It’s also fairly competitive to get into. You'll make far more money and have much better exposure to the biomedical engineering field. 5. Biomedical Engineering. Biomedical engineering is designed for medical technology, not really advanced biological research. If you went to a top 10 biomedical school, you might have an easier time. I’m not familiar with UOttawa’s programs but make sure to look into other schools like the obvious UofT (biomed engineering majors via Engineering Science) and Waterloo (direct entry biomedical engineering program). There’s some interesting fields like neuroengineering, tissue engineering, AI, etc emerging from this space. Despite the name, biomedical engineering is mostly math, physics and engineering design. Both are 1 year, and both are quite similar. Being in that position, I have no idea what to choose. Waterloo probably has a stronger reputation, but Queen's is also a highly regarded school for engineering in Canada and both programs are overseen by the accreditation board so you're going to get a quality undergrad education at either school. ago. It wasn't too difficult but I lacked the motivation to study harder. I've heard good things about Guelph as a university but not much about their Biomedical 100k is a ton of money, graduating without financial burden would be great. The biomedical undergraduate program is still relatively new (started in 2014) and usually has a smaller class size around 100 students so you get to know everyone in the program. F for our virgin homies. Posted by u/jayola111 - 6 votes and 8 comments Queens is a bit too much toxic masculinity with their jacket slapping events. The first class of an innovative biomedical engineering program that connects students to the medical community will start at the University of Waterloo next fall. I got accepted into UofT's engineering science program a few days ago, it's been a top choice of mine for a while, but I also applied to Waterloo's biomedical program (albeit the chances of getting in are much lower). Can confirm that biomedical engineering isn’t focused on biology. Wᴇʟᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ʀ/SGExᴀᴍs – the largest community on reddit discussing education and student life in Singapore! SGExams is also more than a subreddit - we're a registered nonprofit that organises initiatives supporting students' academics, career guidance, mental health and holistic development, such as webinars and mentorship programmes. McMaster University launched a new Master of Biomedical Innovation (MBI) in 2023. Biomedical engineering doesn’t focus on medical technology. Also, Waterloo has great co-op programs, but biomedical science doesn’t offer have co-op opportunities, so I don’t know if that is necessary or if that would help if I want to apply for professional schools. BME has aspects of mechanical, electrical and software. However, I am not interested in the main engineering majors with the best future job prospect like mech eng, soft ware eng, civil, eng and petroleum eng. mcmaster. Just some general pros and cons: Pros: rapidly growing field, especially in the GTA. I’ve checked this subreddit and a majority of questions towards the system design engineering program are directed towards the undergraduate program. Speaking specifically to the field of biomedical engineering, mcmaster is definitely one of the top schools in Ontario due to their strong health sci research and med school. 15 votes, 34 comments. If you did good in grade 11 you might get early acceptances. I was also looking to apply to their life science program, but it seems too competitive. Teams often have different groups working within them, such as mechanical design, materials, electrical, software, even business roles like fundraising and marketing. This isn’t ideal for a med school applicant because as the user above mentioned, getting a high GPA in engineer programs is extremely difficult. I know that waterloo engineering is one of the most competitive programs in the country though so I was just wondering if this was enough. true. I was in the uOttawa Biomedical Mech Eng program, but a prof told me once that this program in particular is relatively new so a lot of employers immediately assume it’s a biomedical engineering degree and not mechanical (even though it most definitely is mechanical engineering) and sometimes will over look applicants for mechanical engineering positions with this degree. Many of the professors are nice and accommodating if you approach them. There is a pretty clear distinction between those in nano who like bio and those that do not. for sure (for engineering)! but you also have a chance for the lower/mid tier engineering programs at waterloo (anything but biomedical/software). Very engineering, which is then applied to biomedical problems. As for chemical engineering, that’s a side of BME that we rarely get to see. Aug 3, 2020 · University of Waterloo Biomedical Engineering 2020 Class Profile. Aspiring Biomedical Science student! I recently got accepted into Waterloo's Life Science program but i couldn't find much on the internet on the student experience. https://mbi. I always planned to go to Mac iBiomed because I liked how you could specialize in a core engineering, and also because I really liked the courses offered. remember you can break into MedTech later by doing a BME Masters, which is common for BME grads in Waterloo anyways, moreover, Queens will be 4 years instead of Waterloo’s 5 years so you can go to grad earlier as well. I don’t know much about Carleton or Queens. I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about Biomedical Engineering coop opportunities, research opportunities, and paths after undergraduate studies. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Based on my research the field growth is very low, and with the number of people entering the program it’s becoming hard to find jobs. To those of you who have or are taking biomed right now, what exactly do you learn, and how does biomed compare to other branches engineering in terms of work load and difficulty? Biomedical Engineering (BME) students participate in co-operative education (co-op) as part of their degree requirements. Software is simply an essential tool of the modern engineer. 4. I am currently in the BPCH major at Guelph. I told my dad I got accepted and now There’s dozens of teams at Waterloo working on projects such as cars (formula, solar, electric, autonomous), watercraft (concrete canoe, submarine, sailboats), rockets, drones, hyper loop, prosthetics, nano robotics, etc. This can be a pro or con depending on what ur looking for. If I got a bubble tea for every time someone has asked me “What is Biomedical Engineering?” or “What is a typical BME job BME_or_Bust • • 6 yr. Science classes aren’t actually that useful when trying to make medical tech. Waterloo engineering beats Mac. I’m also debating because UOttawa offers bursaries for studying in French, for which I am qualified. I went to Waterloo and they have a strong focus on software and they have a neuro tech specialization in BME, plus the strongest coop program in Canada. Stratifyd. The thing is, I'm more interested in the medical side of things rather than the engineering side of things (although I'm still interested in biomed eng) but my main worry is Biomedical engineering sounds pretty interesting, and I have a few questions. In general, BME is a pretty try hard, and not a lot of people in bme do poorly, academically speaking, so I'm not surprised. This program is more like biomedical ENGINEERING (imagine the word is bolded and font size 50 too). It's a great follow up to the iBiomed program. Chemical Engineering offers both stream 4 and stream 8. On the con side, lots of people have no idea what a "Management Engineer" is, on the pro side, you get to craft Chemical Engineering. If you don’t know what you want to do, you’ll still pick up a variety of skills. It's hard to say what the program will be exactly like because it's only the first month but so far it has been very design oriented. Waterloo science is good if your goal is professional school, but if that doesn't work out, it's going to be hard to find a job with The Reddit of Waterloo includes news from throughout the Region of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada. I have a feeling this program is going to take those that want to do bio but also want an engineering degree and are using nano to accomplish that and move them into a program they will actually enjoy / not aggressively complain about. Good Canadian BME programs are UBC, Waterloo, U of Toronto Engineering Science and McMaster Integrated Biomedical Engineering. Look into the future job prospects for biomedical eng. 1. To really get proficient with a certain area, doing projects and coops is heavily recommended. you have a chance at western, tmu, guelph, etc. [deleted] • 4 yr. 3. It's a very niche engineering. I’m a biomedical engineering graduate. Industry is all the companies making tech that’s currently used in healthcare settings. . It's a one-year program that guides learners through the health innovation and entrepreneurship process. I've also been accepted into Waterloo life sci, U of T life sci, Queen's Science and Western Health Sci. Hello, I'm in Grade 12 and have been accepted into the Integrated Biomedical Engineering program and I had a few questions about the Software and Biomedical Engineering Discipline and just the Engineering Degree's in general. Many people think "Management Engineering" means this is a business degree, but it isn't. If you aren’t sure about BME, a general year will give you exposure to more fields. Lets start off with what management engineering is exactly. All offer coop or internships. This being said, many graduates of these I recently got an offer to waterloo's biomedical engineering program as well as various biomedical science programs such as the western med sci and mac life sci programs. The new program in Canada's largest engineering school will give students the unique opportunity to UofT EngSci vs Waterloo Biomedical Eng. i really like the program at Waterloo but I'm quite worried about the social life. The name of the uni itself grants you many more co-op opportunities. My goal is to go to a professional school of medicine or something related like optometry or dentistry, but I'm not sure which would be better for what I want to do. Question. I've also been accepted into Western Science, UofT life sci, and Trent biomed sci, but I'm leaning towards Ottawa Engineering Science vs Waterloo Engineering. There’s a lot in software, research and quality/testing. I’m a biomedical engineering student at Waterloo at 90% of the courses I’ve taken and will take are just engineering courses with a few intro level bio classes. From my experience and after almost completing the program it's a general engineering degree with some business and computer science thrown in. Ignore the rankings, they are mostly irrelevant for undergrads. The official definition I'm sure you've read, basically outlines the optimization of processes and procedures in businesses of all sorts. McMaster damn $120k is life-changing (at least, it is for me). Almost no one cares if you go to UofT. I’m a rising senior and am interested in applying for biomedical engineering at uwaterloo. I applied for waterloo just for fun to see if I could get in, and I got accepted which i'm really excited about. I was recently accepted to Biomedical Engineering program. The program's name itself is both a pro and a con. For less competition, I believe McMaster and McGill have good bioengineering options. Architectural: the communicator between Civil Engineers and Architects. Idk if this helps (I’m still a student) but I specifically switched FROM biomedical engineering to another engineering field because of how little jobs there are and how location specific they are (not many in the Midwest, where I want to live) Personally I don’t like too much competition or want to have to move to a specific location just to get a job so I decided to switch to a field . Everybody always jumps straight to the “Waterloo Engineering is better” mindset but I really am struggling picking between the two. Nobody hiring gives a damn about UofT's "prestige". if you're doing chem eng just because you like chem don't do it because its not really super super chemistry intensive. Waterloo is known for engineering and it’s co-op program so you can get work experience before graduation. Christopher Macartney, a fourth-year biomedical engineering student, organized a Run for Mental Health on the University of Waterloo campus, raising $2,943. Student’s charity run raises funds for mental health. The benefits of Western and Mac general engineering is the flexibility to pursue any engineering program you want (although watch out for grade cutoffs). PM me if you wanna talk more :) Reply. If you pass the first two years of eng sci, you're automatically admitted to any of the eng sci majors. Hi everyone, I’m currently in grade 12 and as the time winds down to making a decisions where I’m gonna go next year I am getting more and more nervous . hi, so i recently got an offer to the biomedical engineering program at Waterloo. ca. Second, Waterloo definitely has a much better developed co-op program. Much like previous cohort's class profiles, this class profile summarizes stats across a variety of topics (academics, co-op, social life, etc. The other 75% will prepare you to solve engineering problems in the field of expertise. I am considering the program but I am kind of scared to just dive into the program because it is such a new engineering program. UOttawa Biomedical Sciences vs. It's the first program of its kind in Canada. Job prospects probably across a lot of things, realistically a lot of chemical engineering graduates end up in the food and drink industry, (production & process) and things related to that. Most work in software but the program is so general that you could get coops in all sorts of fields (product management, electrical, mechanical, materials, assays, quality, bioinformatics, etc) I did all my coops at medical companies, mostly working in quality and mech design. The bulk of the courses are geered towards engineering, and if I was recently admitted to both UBC and UofTs Master of Engineering in Biomedical Engineering Programs. i personally don't know anywhere who has gone there but i have not really heard positive things online. Systems Design: Waterloo’s version of Systems Engineering, but with much more Design. You can choose to take computational biology and bioinformatics as electives but that's the extent of it. McMaster over both, it’s by far the best program. Although the class avg seems really high but i guess the people that didn't do so well probably didnt reply to this. After first year, most of your classes will be Physics courses with some Biology courses. I know there are so many posts like this, especially this week, but I wanted to ask for any advice on this decision I have to make- UofT Engsci vs UW BME. The focus is on using math and computing to improve organizations' processes and operations. If you get thrown into an area of technical knowledge that you didn't fully learn in class, you can pick up a textbook or do a quick google search and understand A community for grade 12s in Ontario to discuss things about university admissions, OSAP, OUAC/OCAS uploads, and general program queries. Consider that for bme jobs mechanical and electrical engineers are preferred over bme students. Mac iBiomed is much better for specialization. I am currently applying to Waterloo honours science and was wondering what the average I would need to be accepted for sure. Civil has a very wide scope of work so you can get co-ops ranging from muddy field work, to oil platforms/mine camps, to a nice office job on the 15th floor. My HS average going in is around 94% with a few extracurriculars. At the end of the day, BME is an systems design engineering program with a little bit of biomed flavoring. There’s a couple bio and chem courses but they’re very shallow. They still take a few grad courses, and the research experience can be very attractive to employers, especially for any kind of R&D work. Learn more about courses you'll take for your Biological and Medical Physics degree. Student life was great if you find the right clubs or extracurriculars. Like other engineer programs, it involves an extremely heavy course load with a high focus on math and physics. I’m currently stuck between biomedical engineering at Waterloo and eng at western with bme later on. However, in contrast to the standard progression, stream 4 and stream 8 students have formalized 8 month co-op terms, aligning all Chemical students for the final year of study. Like they take mostly the same courses. Not sure how great job success rates will be since there’s no coop in UBC. You get a much better engineering education and opportunities in a broader engineering field like electrical or mechanical and more options to pursue biomedical engineering. Waterloo had better academic programs and a much larger city life, things like a large Google office exist in Waterloo. Waterloo BME vs McMaster ibiomed. iBiomed is new but rivals Waterloo’s BME program. The questions are generally directed to those currently in the program/engineering, but comments from anyone Hopefully you find out the information you need! 3. Also, MASc grads can definitely go into industry. hello guys, im a highschool student applying to university this year (aiming for waterloo). Does anyone have any insight on bme students at western. Advice. Im in grade 12 rn and have no clue of what uni program to go into. In each of the four programs listed (COMPE, EE, MGTE, SYDE), at most 25% (and possibly much less) of the program will focus on software development. i know quite a few people who got into uw eng with low 90’s/high 80’s. qv ab sj sb dy vo ix vb bh rd