This dangerous muscle condition can result from overexertion, trauma, medications or an underlying health condition. I have been doing CrossFit for 8 years. But I think it would be best t stop. I should though. And while rhabdo is serious — and seriously terrifying — Arora says it’s still pretty rare. Symptoms of rhabdomyolysis include muscle pain, muscle weakness and darkened urine. However, my workouts have come to a halt when my doctor confirmed I've been experiencing mild Rhabdomyolysis. If a doctor can't help you or you don't "RESPECT THEIR AUTHORITAH", try Buddhism/Hinduism. High blood pressure. Others I’ve seen with Rhabdo have levels of CK above 5000. My anxiety improved a huge amount once I started following that rule. Dr took bloods and today has told me that my CK levels were 90,000! I was in the hospital for 7 days with rhabdo due to my calves. Here are four things to know about rhabdomyolysis: 1. Yes, rheumatologist to see if it was an autoimmune thing. Rhabdo can happen with light exercise, but is rare. This most frequently happens due to some sort of crush injury (such as getting stuck under a car or in an earthquake for an extended period of time. Sometimes you might even feel like you aren't anxious but your body is. My experience with rabdo. Ck peaked on 47k and was sent home from the hospital after two days of IV with CK 20k. This! My therapist told me people with anxiety should avoid CATS. Well super sore is just that being sore, whereas Rhabdomyolysis is an extremely serious condition that can lead to death. Posted by u/Strange_Bird_9168 - 3 votes and no comments Rhabdo Pain Occurs Quicker. Tired, shaky, very jumpy and nauseated. More importantly, you will have shoulders to fall upon during a full-blown panic attack. Since the last week I focused on correcting my form and realised the weights I used for past months are difficult w correct form, but still went on with them. Muscle weakness. However, there’s a lot of opinions in the medical literature that this number is far too low a threshold for practical purposes, with some suggestions being 50x as being more appropriate as a designation of “clinical significance. Rhabdo pain in the legs and diarrhea don't mix well ๐ After a quick visit to the doctor I ended up being hospitalized for three days. And very sudden. Most people have an increase after a workout, which is fine, but Rhabdo is officially diagnosed when the level is 5 times the normal amount which is about 80-198 according to google. Just giving my personal experience with Rhabdo and returning to the gym thereafter. I’m scared about going 3 days in a row! I am fairly hydrated, I had a ton of anxiety about getting rhabdo today after working out my upper body 2 days I went to the gym a few days ago noticed I had some extreme soreness/stiffness started typing my symptoms into chatgpt 4. First day, 16000 CK Second day, 11000 CK Third day, 8000 CK Specifically exertional rhabdomyolysis ("rhabdo" or "ER" for short). It’s extremely dangerous. I had rhabdomyolysis in my thighs about 7 months ago. Common side-effects of muscle pain and weakness are not a result of the drugs themselves, but rather patients’ negative beliefs about the medication – a phenomenon known as the nocebo effect. Drink lots of water (but not excessive amounts). I’m somewhat sore but no more than usual. It makes me feel tired for a whole 24 hours after I take it which sucks. Most people in there are looking for support for recurrent/chronic rhabdo. The average person seems to think that feeling anxious is something extreme and debilitating yet they don’t even know what it’s like to have an anxiety disorder. Focus, not strain, on repeating your name, your favorite things, the stuff you subjectively enjoy without explanation. FML, I can’t do serious workouts now for a month…. Hey, I developed a case of rhabdo in my quads after partying every night for 2 weeks and then doing 3 heavy workouts in 24 hours with the final one being bodyweight squats to failure which seems to have pushed it over the edge. I’ve had low T symptoms, huge stress, anxiety and depression all my life. Place of anxiety. It inhibits acetylcholine, a key neurotransmitter. I could relate to almost everything, took a silly test which said that indeed I have symptoms of anxiety. Try reading this, it might help. If your muscles hurt, your urine looks like a Newcastle Brown Ale, and feel like you have the flu, go to a damn hospital. “Rhabdo occurs when damaged muscle tissue releases its proteins and electrolytes into the blood. ADMIN MOD. Went to ER and was tested for Rhabdo. I was diagnosed with Rhabdo. The doctors at the VA later on think that I possibly had mild rhabdo due to elevated CK and myoglobin levels. 5-mile run. You are probably questioning your entire sense of self, and treating your conscious mind as foreign. Rhabdomyolysis is a condition where your muscle tissue breaks down due to trauma, putting your kidneys at risk. The anxiety of it all is A LOT and I can’t imagine how tough it is for you going through it twice! I have not had recurrent rhabdo. I have never had rhabdomyolysis, nor have I heard of anyone else with BFS experiencing this. Hot flashes or chills, feeling overheated or very cold. I did abs and arms today, chest/shoulders yesterday, and tomorrow is supposed to be leg day. Rhabdo feels like you're dying, because you are. That means you shouldn’t let it stop you from exercising, but having it on your radar is good. I'm sorry that you're facing this because it certainly isn't something I would want to experience first hand. Advice Needed. Disclaimer, I messaged my doc for their input so I did indeed seek professional medical advice but am coming here to ease (or not) my health anxiety ridden mind while I await their response. beautifulsucculent. Exertional rhabdo happens when people do way too much volume or intensity, usually because they're pushed into it by a coach or trainer and discouraged from listening to their body telling them to stop. 13, male, smokes weed but hasnt smoked for a a bit over a few days (I think), severe anxiety, major depressive disorder with psychotic features… Every time you give in to anxiety, it grows a little bit. Emasinmancy. The last few days I feel I overtrained. r/rhabdo_survivors A chip A close button. Therapy! Try to go 5-6 days a week if you're depressed and you'll notice a HUGE difference. things make people anxious sometimes, and that's ok. Please forgive me if this is ridiculous. They are thinking immune-related but not sure. We are a support group for those who have been diagnosed with (or have questions about) the rare but life threatening disease, Rhabdomyolysis. After the largest lung nodule reached over 1cm at the end of 2020 I began treatment with Keytruda. I still don't know if it's for me… I was diagnosed with aveolar soft part sarcoma in November 2019 which had metastasized, and had several nodules in my lungs. That's not how it works most of the time. Also my workouts were messed up for like a year afterwards I was so nervous about getting rhabdo again. This Wednesday I exercised too hard and I'm currently feeling muscle pain. You won't regret it! With the help of this tools, i were back to normal after ~ 6 month – 1 year. Its anticholinergic effect is on a par with heavy-duty anti-psychotic drugs. YEP just got out of the ER for it last night. Many times people have depression which can cause anxiety or vice versa, or they’re forgetful, or may have adhd which can cause anxiety, and all of those other factors/illnesses can be caused by a deficiency too. When I had Rhabdo that pain got lighter at rest, but never subsided. My CK often goes to 500-900 after a heavy workout. I ended up throwing up earlier and I’m trying to figure out if it’s just the lower calories and feeling bad, or possibly Rhabdo from overdoing it. Caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, sugar. Illness Anxiety & Hypochondriasis) in its many forms in our own societal realms. The instructions for home care have been generally vague and “listen to your body” Same goes with roller coasters, parachuting, etc. I found a giant list of anxiety symptoms and its crazy how many there are. In terms of other reasons for rhabdo it can be caused to do things like crush syndrome (example traffic accidents), hypothermia, long term immobility, (cases of comas or prolonged unconsciousness, and a laundry list of medications like antipsychotics, antidepressants, antiviral medications and statins used to treat diabetes and liver disease. Also avoid black licorice. CK was 148 000. Although I’m happy that there is so much awareness, this awareness has led to a society that doesn’t take the words “mental illness” as seriously as before because everyone This can cause kidney damage. These substances can damage the heart and kidneys and cause permanent disability or even death. TLDR; did lots of jumping pull-ups, on sixth day in hospital, no fun. The negativity I see on this site makes me believe it could happen to me in my life. I first got it in 2013 after a century ride, was dx'ed with chronic kidney diseaase a few years later. I had worked out (a light work out) but had no soreness following the work out. Unfortunately the biggest bang for you buck exercises are the ones most likely to cause rhabdo, pull ups, pushing, squats, deadlifts etc. Every time you face it, it shrinks a little bit. Then go to the doctor. ) So I went to the gym last week for the first time in almost a year, went in pretty hard and felt sore for a couple of days later. For me, it's the awareness and non dual nature of experience which has brought immense, IMMENSE psychological relief. So I posted this is r/fitness but it was removed due to rule infringement but I still think it is very important information for people to see. Edit: it sucked. Thanks. bwith that said, I have seen improvement on my energy levels/muscle weakness so I'm slowly starting to build that back up by walking and gentle exercises until i feel more normal. You are probably okay but cannot be sure. Treating both was the trick. Headaches, dizziness, weakness, lightheadedness, sweating or shaking. I am a 24F who has had rhabdo 7 times since i was 17 years old. Reply reply. Thank you for the kind words, I’m so scared to try it. I actually don’t think it helps my anxiety at all, just makes me sleep That statement is lacking though. Like any medication you take your body needs to get used to it. That’s where I’m at. (Again though, if anyone reading this is that worried, just go to urgent care and get it checked. Okay so I just want to share this with people as I have never heard of this and it wasn't posted as a PSA in any Prozac works pretty good for my anxiety and I don't see a therapist. A must-read : r/crossfit. So I'm new to crossfit and at this stage trying it out. Rhabdo occurs when damaged muscle tissue releases its proteins and electrolytes into the blood. I didn't feel any pain, soreness or nausea, only my pee got…. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Reddit Rhabdomyolysis post workout. I’ve had rhabdo twice (CK of 97k and 20k). jordroge. ” (Will get citations Unless you absolutely have to take doxylamine, please don't. Dark red or brown urine or decreased urination. recurrent rhabdo. a. The dr advised I drop the supplements and hydrate. Chest X-rays are clear. I'm two weeks into my Crossfit venture and have really enjoyed it. In addition to this back squats have always been a weakness for me. I had my blood drawn this morning (42 hours after exercise) and my CK was 1541. If you think you have Rhabdo or read this and think you may have it, go to the ER. I lost a lot of muscle during having Rhabdo and now I’m thinking about exploring Trt. The poison is with the dose. I use it for nights when my thoughts are spiraling and I can’t sleep. I continued to orally hydrate since those are the directions my doctor gave me and although I was a little sore, I eventually felt fine and my urine went back to normal. Sometimes I'll be solid every day for 3 years or so, then off and on in between. This is the basis of all treatment for anxiety. They said my labs were looking good even though I complained of symptoms such as a numb feeling in my mouth, hands and feet are red and legs are stiff. Basically did a CrossFit workout on Monday, developed the twitching over the past few days and went to the ER on Thursday. r/bodybuilding. I've been out for about 2 weeks and tried to walk mile yesterday and it felt like I'd run a marathon. Add Adderall, anxiety virtually disappeared and attention exploded. I had to start taking cbd oil for my anxiety and panic attacks. I thought it was tendon pain but I am a bit of a hypochondriac and much too curious for my own good, so I felt it was slightly odd the pain was quite so acute and centered around my inner elbows. Hands and feet, it was like half numbness. where it becomes a disorder is basically when you fall outside the realm of normalcy for how anxious you get and what makes you anxious. This is my third week of training. If it progresses she seeks out the assistance of a nurse that can put her on an IV. Took 5 months off the gym because of a wrist injury. Here are some points to note on this not fun journey of mine. Log In / Sign Up; Might be health anxiety. I would stop the pre-workout and creatine entirely for the time being. 1: Iv always been a "Fittish person", I'd say my I for the first time in my life started having panic attacks after my rhabdo hospitalization. MOD. The pain progressively gets worse as the hours' tick by. TL;DR: “Strenous exercise” (ie lifting and extreme aerobic exercise) causes elevated LFTs and CK levels on lab work that makes it look like you’re in liver failure due to the break down of muscle protein. Crossfit (good coaches) are supposed to do their diligence in bringing those who have not exercised for a while, into the exercises at a reasonable rate. CK levels came back at 2 recently lost strength and legs and grip not able to walk. Some medical notes: Day 1 - 75,000 CK Buddhism and Hinduism are literally dealing with these kind of issues (anxiety & depression) successfully for over 1000 years. My use of Reddit is making me extremely anxious yet it is 90% of my entertainment at this point and o don want to stop using it. SeaBass123. I think the safest thing to do to avoid rhabdo is start slow with eccentric work and after however many weeks take some time off eccentrics or do a complete deload. I've noticed a major trend with most Rhabdo stories I've read: experienced crossfitter gets injured or some other major life event takes them away from training anywhere from a few weeks to a few months, they return to crossfit and push themselves extremely hard Got rhabdo (i guess) : r/HubermanLab. A gym membership can run as low as $20/month! Diet. Common signs and symptoms of rhabdomyolysis are weak muscles, muscle stiffness, muscle pain and a change in your pee color. should I go back? Being open: Being open about your anxiety with your closed ones will enable to learn new strategies, perspectives and many more things. I’m now in a pretty good space and focused on developing myself. MattAerospace. Others: practicing gratitude daily, practicing my hobbies ( soccer). CK levels came back at 280. 6. The official subreddit community for the Youtube channel More Plates More Dates. So on the possibility of it actually being rhabdo. Jun 4, 2021 ยท There have been sporadic studies on rhabdo in college football players, in the military, and within police forces—one otherwise-healthy officer died after a 1. There are so many people looking for the answer to this question that there's a facebook group devoted to it - Rhabdomyolysis Treatment and Recovery Group. 2. Mental illness is unfortunately not that black and white. Elevated CK levels and protein in your urine is a problem, though. I work out 3-4 times a week, I watch my diet and no other medical problems besides anxiety. 3. Long term low T levels, huge stress, anxiety and depression all my life. Those who have been practicing for a while, become aware of dangers due to dropped weights, exertion, etc. I had no symptoms and they were shocked I could walk. Over night they checked it again and it went down to about 27,000 so my hopes were up. MembersOnline. 0 with internet access and it mentioned this crazy thing called rhabdomyolysis but said my pee should be brown or red so I continued my morning like normal till finally I had to pee… sure enough it turned the toilet a Coca Cola color and I told my gf she begged me to go cmanley3. did anyone here have intermittent shortness of breath for at least a couple weeks afterwards? I'm just asking because I'm trying to figure out what's causing this. they thought it was from my Ritalin because I had just started it. Meditation. Lots of people tell me I should, but I can't afford it. They decided to admit me to monitor me and put me on constant IVs to try to flush everything out, the next day it reached 45,000 CK which gave me pretty bad anxiety. How long until I can get back to exercise? We are a support group for those who have been diagnosed with (or have questions about) the rare but life threatening disease, Rhabdomyolysis. 15 months later I feel back to normal. Went to ER from Rhabdo caused by Anavar. Give the Prozac a try and you will win for sure. I'd been lifting weights for much of my life, but had really slipped in the last couple of years I'm sorry, we cannot accurately speak to the medical basis of what you may be experiencing. This is usually diagnosed via a blood test where they measure the Creatine Kinase levels in your blood. Got rhabdo (i guess) Been working for 4 months after a gap of almost 10 yrs (27 y/o now). It doesn't sound like rhabdomyolysis to me, but it does sound like something is causing stress on your kidneys. I just spent 5 days in the ICU for Rhabdomyolysis (Super Doms), AMA. My CK levels were 109,000 and doctors couldn’t tell me why it occurred. Statin side-effects only felt by those who believe in them – study. My leg hurt on the Thursday and then stopped and began hurting again. According to the CDC, " Rhabdomyolysis (often called rhabdo) is a serious medical condition that can be fatal or result in permanent disability. FML: Heavy lifting made me look like I was in liver failure. You may hear rhabdomyolysis referred to as “rhabdo. when the body is in fight or flight or experiencing prolonged stress crazy shit can happen. I have been an athlete my entire life and was a D1 athlete in college. A must-read. Lung nodules continued to grow, and new ones were showing up. We know this! For some gluten can also cause anxiety, depression, irritability, and brain fog. Agreed! I actually do have both--treatment for anxiety helped attention but I plateaued in that area and was managing the anxiety well everywhere else. PSA for newbies: be reeeeeeally careful of Rhabdo. Easy_Truck7477. Don’t take ibuprofen or Tylenol as it can affect your liver and make things worse if you actually have Rhabdo. In any case a hospital is just going to give you fluids and monitor- I would guess it’s unlikely this would be a major rhabdo given the info you’ve said. Rhabdo (Rhabdomyolysis) from Working Out. Here is an article detailing CPK levels into the XX,XXX range for *more than half of 203 study participants* from 50 eccentric bicep curls (lowering a weight). It happens a lot and I don’t want to take my kolonopin that often so that is why my dr prescribed it. The sleep is probably an anxiety thing. Listen to your body and if you start seeing other symptoms apart from soreness maybe get it checked out. If your muscles hurt, but you feel fine otherwise, chances are it's DOMS. We strive to be a safe place to share your experience with and knowledge about Rhabdo. On Tuesday, I went to my gym that I have been working out at for 3 years now to supplement my endurance cycling and ultra running training. Good for you!!! And I had the same experience! My generalized anxiety and depression from which I've suffered my entire life is all but GONE. However, mine wasn’t from exercise exertion, drugs/alcohol, or any other specific factor they can pin point. it's normal to have regular anxiety from time to time. Log In / Sign Up Soon 3 weeks out of training induced rhabdo in the abdominals. I also got 1 IV bag in me before leaving. It was discovered during an unrelated blood test and confirmed when my CK/AST/ALT levels went into the stratosphere staying high for about 72 It's a serious debilitating disorder that can cause the quality of ones life to be completely awful. Reply reply More replies. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. Issue needing advice: Since 2017 I've had multiple cases of experiencing rhabdo-similar levels of muscle pains which have triggered anxiety about developing into another episode of rhabdo. This causes blood, protein, and muscle enzymes to get processed by your kidneys, which can cause renal failure (kidney failure 40 year old male developed muscle twitching and aches in the right chest muscles and right lat. . On the Sunday I went to the toilet and noticed my urine was relatively dark and after researching and hearing about Rhabdo I contacted my doctor. Mindfulness has brought my adhd from "dehibilitating" to "mildly annoying". and every time I swallow I feel a lump in my throat , like chest tightness. It normally happens with people who run marathons without preparation or to crossfitters who have taken long breaks from working out and go super hard. •. People have a misconception that it's like taking a magic pill and you are cured. I left more confused and with a lot of anxiety because I used to work out a lot and I would feel sore but never ever heard of something like this, especially how deadly it can be. Quitting sugar. Past couple days have been brutal horrible soreness in my biceps starting 2 days after workout lasting the last couple days which is odd and I’m rarely sore for more than a day if at all. Doxylamine succinate is an antihistamine which may make you drowsy and help you sleep but it is also a powerful anticholinergic drug. The first time I got it was from severely overworking out based on my college soccer regimen, but since then (I quit college soccer) I have struggled tremendously with getting recurrent rhabdo while doing workouts that are not over strenuous. Have you discussed your concerns with your doctor before starting an exercise regimen? Being open about your anxiety with your doctor, and seeking therapy for anxiety management, could help. It's too weak to be rhabdo and too strong to be normal muscle soreness. Don’t risk long term damage for something that could’ve been prevented. Propranolol (beta blocker that keeps the body calmer and allows you to learn that social situations are 'safe') The mindset that it gets worse before it gets better. I lost a lot of muscle during having Rhabdo and I’m very interested in optimising my health/body as much as I can. Still have occasional anxiety issues but my four times a week is now my once every month or two. k. I was discharged from the hospital yesterday (was there since Sunday) as I dropped to 7500 CK from 61k after getting exercise induced rhabdo from a cycle class after taking a month and a half off from it (while possibly having a cold). Went to ER and was tested for Abdou. I started CrossFit a few weeks ago and did the on-ramp classes then a couple of normal scaled classes. after doing research rhabdo pretty immediately showed up and scared me due to the concerns that are present with severe cases of rhabdo. I go to therapy it’s so helpful. You can hydrate yourself at home. This past Sunday I woke up with a severe muscle knot in my neck and shoulders that rapidly progressed and eventually made it physically impossible to turn my Remind yourself of things you enjoy, read old texts, try to remember your childhood. 2: rhabdomyolysis of this sort from 0-100 exercise is *extremely* common--you literally break down your muscles so that your body can rebuild them. The day after the ER I’m worse off, debating what to do next. We coalesce here to reclaim control of our lives through: education, sharing experiences, sharing management techniques, sharing resources, exposing stigma & norms, and advancing the discussion & awareness around Health Anxiety (a. Rapid breathing or shortness of breath. If you are experiencing flu-like symptoms (achy, nauseous, fatigue, dizziness, headache, etc. The “classic triad” of rhabdomyolysis symptoms are: Extreme muscle pain. This morning I woke up feeling pretty nauseous and fatigued. Traditionally, 5x the upper limit of normal, which equates to about 1,000. Recently I've been golfing and playing tennis the past 6 months, and haven't been doing much weight lifting. My blood work came back and showed a 37,000 CK level. IFS therapy. What I learned after Rhabdo and 6 days of hospitalization! Finally, after what seemed like an ETERNITY - my CK levels are safe enough for me to be discharged after a GHD workout sent me to the ER. Sometimes however the pain can take up to 24 hours before it kicks in. 1. These things might make you feel better in the moment but they make your anxiety so much worse overall. DOMS is just sore muscles from a workout. I’m now in a pretty good space and focused on developing myself and getting into my routines. Rhabdo when you least expect it. My anxiety was through the roof as I had already spent 5 days in the hospital only 2 months prior. It's normal to feel this way when first taking the medication. I was on a site reading about depression and stress when I came over an article about anxiety. This is totally normal and not a health concern at all. Reddit anxiety. ) along with DOMS and swelling -- it does NOT matter that your urine is clear and frequent, you should go see a doctor. Makes me super super tired. Before that I didn't really know anything about it, and just thought I get really nervous and stressed a lot of times. This morning I saw my urine is brown and instantly rushed to get blood work done. Sugar and processed carbs will make you feel shitty. Anxiety makes you uncomfortable, but it is not harmful. CK of 2,200 isn’t even rhabdomyolysis by most definition (5k+ typically for rhabdo). The way you’ve written seems to come from a. Local crossfitter tells her Rhabdo story. Reply. . Went hard in Gym. I just left the hospital from Rhabdo with acute kidney failure right. Nausea, vomiting, gas, bloating, frequent urination, stomach or digestive problems including diarrhea and constipation. I did 1 session week 1, 2 week 2, and so far 2 this third week. ”. This helped me to keep going and expose myself to very uncomfortable situations. The goal is to recognize that it is purely discomfort and there is really nothing to be afraid of. She can recognize the early stages of rhabdo pain and curtails her activity accordingly and hydrates accordingly. Expand user menu Open settings menu. Essentially, if you workout too hard and damage your muscle fibres too severely, the muscle fibres start dumping their contents into the bloodstream. Hi everyone. shoulster. Edit 2: so I decided to do a quick 3 min squats, 3 min push ups, plank workout to test myself, and 39 hours later had full blown Rabdo. Had to Google it and it looks like it's an entirely different category of seriousness. All tests showed no kidney damage, so my kidneys was fine. I am having a bad anxiety episode and in the past few days I found myself pacing a lot around the house and taking long walks. In the beginning of July I switched from buprenorphine to methadone which has improved my life quality, reduced my TL;DR: I spent a day Googling whether or not I "had rhabdo" and should get to a doctor. Had primary tumor removed. Later that day when they did another Doc just confirmed Rhabdo. While delayed muscle soreness (DOMS) usually occurs 24-48 hours after exercise, rhabdomyolysis pain can begin almost immediately after someone ceases the activity. Check your urine for proper color, smell and volume. One 1995 figure Hey, I just got out of hospital Tuesday from a four day hospital vacation from rhabdo. I had rhabdo 2 weeks ago, was admitted into hospital and stayed there for 3 days. Even upon leaving I’m still sore from my lower abs to my upper abs. fs yy kt ot ku jp vx qe nt df